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I agree John. If this wealth chat still is to go on. I believe only invite only by you. I know I have appreciated everything you have contributed here. And if you never post again. I totally understand. I laughed, in a good way, when you said you had better things to do. lol. And then you said family and health. Always the best. Better than anything anyone could come up with. I have read what a couple people on here have said, and I just ignore them. Don’t even bother with them anymore because this community wants positive vibes. Not negative. And if there is negative, do it respectfully. Not everyone will agree, we all know that. But at least be respectful. I love listening or talking to people’s passions. It is always fun. And I learn a lot from those people. I have a lot of base knowledge on a lot of topics because of those people. And you John are one of them. Totally love what you have built here. Just sad there are several bad eggs.

I kind of like the exclusivity idea I always bought into the whole groups for specific things thing. I rather enjoy this group on the the app and it has yielded some fine interactions with strangers that would 100% not have partaken in on any other social media the fact that everyone is a real person and is being represented as who they are I like. I won’t go on because I could point is I would genuinely be sad to see this group go away and you as well John although I would understand. Sense if Comunity what social media was always meant to be. Ramble ramble thanks for everything John we miss having you around, stimulating discussion.

I started typing this a couple days ago and didn’t finish because I had better things to do (family time and health needs) but you’ll get the idea and I’m still deciding where to go from here. Perhaps this community should be invite-only Thank you Danny and I agree.. Diane is off-topic and unnecessarily combative. But it’s not just her. Rob’s ghost still haunts us and the trolls still lurk here. The last thread tethering me to this project is this community and my passion for investing. But I have lost so much patience and tolerance for troublemakers. I recently visited a small island in the north Atlantic that no one’s ever heard of.. such a breath of fresh air. The old country. The culture, community and humanity in everyone. It still exists in the world but the internet, smartphones and social media have changed people. We’re further apart.. not closer, even though we can connect at light speed and share our opinions to strangers in milliseconds. Has it led to more collaboration, more meeting of the minds? In some ways, yes. Has it led to more conflict? On balance, yes, I think it has. More arguments, shaming, criticism and division. It’s too easy and normalized now. Sircles took on a massive challenge, an audacious goal.. but the modern world is moving faster than ever. Our civilization and societies developed over thousands of years. Humans learned to work together, building, farming, hunting, caring for sick and injured, raising children, rationing supplies, overcoming countless obstacles.. side by side.. in person. The internet gave rise to online, distant communities where

That is similar to what john posted a couple days ago. Past due payments are up

Im seeing declining financials and increasing debt not really sending good signals to me personally curious if someone sees something else

I know a few of us have talked about RISE robotics on here before I believe Homer was one I invested in the 1st round and invested in this one just saw the newest financials came out and they want an reconfirmation of investment has anyone had a chance to look at them and if so do you still plan to follow though in this round? Ps it says must confirm within 8 days of today 5/18/26

I’m letting this ride as I’m still up YTD by a nice margin, wouldn’t hurt to see some green but I’m still doing just fine 😌

Good morning finance world! Taking suggestions this morning!

Thank you!!

Thanks Danny

Anthony, your description of the keyboard problem is clear. I’m looking into it because I see what you mean. It’s more of an edge case to consider than a bug.

Like I said as well, a quick restart fixes all for me, it takes maybe 8-10 seconds

Also I’ve been buying PUTS against Tesla for this summer but I think I’m a little early. Seems like it’s kinda pumping with the whole SPACE-X thing is this something you’ve looked into?

Hey John I’m itching to make sure bets against MSTR but struggling to find any catalysts for a date I can buy some PUTS for do you have any thoughts?

I-15 is over there on top of that lava cliff. A long time ago, the Earth ripped open and lava floated out and created that. This is also the area where the great Bonneville Lake emptied out into the snake river about 65,000 years ago leaving the ever shrinking Salt Lake.

We’ve been doing a lot of work in John’s absence but have not pushed any new versions to the App Store in awhile because we’ve been making some architectural changes that require a lot of testing. Dianne, the approach you’re taking of “Goddamnit this app has serious bugs” is not helpful and quite frankly it’s annoying and offensive because it has no more bugs than any other app in the market. I’m using a golf app right now that has millions of users and about 6 buttons on one of the screens don’t work at all. Bugs are par for the course with mobile apps. If you run into a problem, you can nicely let us know but don’t whine about it. We’ve been upfront about our challenges and have a very small team. We catch 99% of bugs and fix the other 1% when we become aware of them. Every app has bugs. Every single one. Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, ESPN, X/Twitter. So again, please, if you run into a bug… politely let us know.

Our front lawn is all the way to those trees over there

At least I still have this view off my front deck

I have had issues with long messages as well

I’ve only recently noticed in your absence John typing out long messages in here where I’m going back and forth responding to specific things people have said in one message. That’s where I notice it

I can't edit unless I force stop and restart the app. All other issues I have, seem to be fixed with the same technique

I think she’s referring to like when you type out a really long message the bigger your typing on moves the screen so you can’t read the messages above u till you send your message. It won’t let you drag the screen and keyboard out if the way to see the message above u till your message is either sent or deleted

Is anyone else having a problem with the keyboard?

but the keyboard not going away and covering up part of the chat, mainly the bottom of it, has been going on for quite a while

ios 26.5

The keyboard thing is really annoying because I have to exit the chat room and then re-enter the chat room, but this last one, the keyboard disappeared and locked up the entire app

Someone posted yesterday on Facebook that UAE was part of Iran and that data sinners were being used by Iran to spy on Americans. I nearly busted a gut laughing. Goddamnit.. this app has serious bugs.. keyboards that don’t disappear and cover up part of the chat. This last one the keyboard disappeared and the app locked up and I had to exit and re-enter the entire app.

We can repair Diane but the radar installations take years to build and install and are worth billions. Plus, we’re still sitting ducks without adequate drone defenses which we didn’t plan for. We built our military to “fight the last war” not to handle new, modern warfare

Repair also continues

I’ve had a hard time making money on oil using UCO call options due to that ETF buying long-dated and underpriced oil futures months out (not reflecting anywhere near the reality of the physical price of oil), but I did manage to cash out some big gains this week since futures are finally catching up to reality. Although, that trade is not reflected on the screenshot above showing my current open positions) 👆 To play the fuel crunch, I’ve been betting against United Airlines (UAL) who does not hedge jet fuel costs.. and each penny rise equals a loss of $42Million annually. Jet fuel has doubled and can easily rise another 50% this summer. Lesson: My biggest weakness is seeing things early and acting too soon. Being early is being wrong. It can be overcome but requires doubling or tripling down sometimes.. adding risk.. which is what I’ve had to do. With my first UAL trade (red line) I was too early and it cost me $10K. Those options expire today. Not to be deterred, however, I’ve tripled down and UAL is showing pressure. By the end of the summer I could make over $100K on this trade.. maybe more

Most bases were not fully abandoned. A lot of structures were damaged and operations degraded, but not routed. Operations continue.

There’s crazy date right. Now too all the manipulatable data says bullish but the red flags to watch all day bearish it’s really wild I’ll let John finish lol

The thing about the the delinquencies and the recession to pay attention to is Kevin warsh the new fed chair mister anti printer which is how you would be trying to work your way through a recession low rates which Kevin warsh is all about but Mirian just left for powel to have a seat ( mirian ) was a money printer and low rates guy so ya warsh will be all about low rates but doesn’t necessary work unless you use both tools

And with trump being trump. We are all screwed.

WTF

Wow. Might be a good time to tighten the belt.

Ok, one last data point to consider 👆Loan defaults (delinquencies) are nearing all time highs. This is a MAJOR red flag. When access to credit tightens and people/businesses can’t get loans or credit cards… it’s a 100% prediction of recession. What condition inevitably leads to credit tightening? …Delinquencies

I finally read all the messages John. The stock I sold was INTC.

I have some questions but I’ll wait for you to get the trades out

It implies that if the Strait of Hormuz stays closed for longer (DUH, I’ve been saying it will since the beginning) inflation will rocket higher. Outside of America no one thinks this will be over soon.. and it won’t. Everyone on Wall Street who’s turning a blind eye and thinks “this time is different” keeps citing strong corporate earnings and rising expectations. Earnings are in the past. They already happened. Expectations are in the future.. hasn’t happened yet. I predict the future with high degree of accuracy. I predicted the war for example and I predict we’ll be back in a hot war soon. A war Iran has been preparing for, for decades. Barely reported is how badly Iran destroyed our military bases in the region. We had to abandon most of them. I was shocked. We’re also short on ammunition and don’t have much support from allies. I’m hoping that’s changing and the UAE will join us and possibly Britain and France seem to be positioning themselves to assist with opening the strait. We need the help. Iran will NEVER surrender to the US. It’s a bit sickening how poorly we misjudged this very ancient and proud civilization. A deal was never going to happen. Most of the media has been as delusional as the “optimistic” camp. We’re in a very tough spot now and the global economy cannot escape the impending downturn. I’ll share my trades next

That is crazy. 50 year difference and almost identical. History repeating itself.

CNBC has a lot of smart people.. that’s why I love watching. And often they’ll use charts with overlays to show similarities or correlations to events. That one above, however, is the spookiest, near-perfect, match I’ve ever seen

This chat is eerie. I took this screenshot (above) this morning. The blue line is us today—overlaid with the orange line which is the last time there was an oil shock due to conflict with Iran (the orange line)

John, always appreciate your insight and glad to hear from you. But take all the time you need man. You have done so much these last few years. Health is way more important. Your cult peeps will always be here for you. lol. You can’t take care of other people until you take care of yourself first. Homer and the other Anthony have been doing an amazing job helping a lot of out with their insight.

Smart move 🔥

I do think the market has. I sold some of my shares this morning They were shares I almost tripled my investment, and the last few days have not been good

Is anyone else thinking the markets have peaked? They’ve been totally overheated.. driven by an extremely cyclical, narrow sector of the market (the semiconductors). That sector is notoriously volatile (boom bust). INTC has been a great trade but a gain isn’t a gain until you take it. Trim your winners and don’t be greedy. I took this screenshot (above) a few days ago. This is the classic sign of an overbought situation. I’ve had a lot more to say but not ready to jump all the way back in just yet. I’m visiting my mom for a couple days and next couple weeks I’ll be getting some health scans.. things I’ve put off for too long. But I’ll try to stay engaged because there’s a lot of opportunities, and a lot of danger in the market right now

I checked in at the Oregon POE scales at around 11 and was excited…got to Crescent City after market close, checked again and thought…okay, I can live with that

Sure did have some movement with CRCL today, was up almost 5% and then by end of day it was down 2%, I think it’s going to be okay 😎

Nicely played

I know absolutely insane back at the end of April. I ended up buying PUTS on the 2XETF for QQQ. QID. For 15 share when it was at 1750 and I was absolutely shocked it hit I was convinced it was a total gamble and then I was like OK I’m gonna try it again for 13 for the end of July and every day I’m getting more and more convinced that those will probably end up hitting as well, which is insane. It’s like every day there’s a new all-time high on the QQQ

This market is bonkers and we haven’t even seen Cerebras, OpenAI, Anthropic, or SpaceX enter the chat

Mike B - You’ll need to log into Wefunder and read the most recent company update. If sounds like you may need to reset your Wefunder password if you can’t figure out how to log in. That’s not something we control but if you visit wefunder.com/login there should be an option to reset

Welcome back John. Nice to get a break!

can someone help me i haven't been on here in months and just went to check my wefunder account and can't log into that either did the money get moved. I know nothing about investing is the first time in tried and I'm lost

welcome back. hope you had a nice time off.

glad your back. hope your rested

Good to see you John. These guys are pretty good on here! You pulled together a great group of people 🩵

nice to see ya back John. 🤗

Welcome back John!

Things have been good. Welcome back

Good vibes feeling good and making money 🤑 welcome back John!